‘Bold Faced Lies’: DeSantis Hits Back At Trump Over His Claims About Florida’s COVID Record

Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis hit back at former President Donald Trump in response to claims that Trump made about how DeSantis handled COVID as the governor of Florida.

During an interview this week with Megyn Kelly, the former president claimed that he was “not a big fan of [Dr. Anthony] Fauci,” but that DeSantis “said the greatest things” about Fauci and “love[d] him.”

“I was not a big fan of Fauci,” said Trump. “If you look at Ron DeSanctimonious, he was — this guy said the greatest things [about Fauci]. I can give you articles that ‘Fauci’s great, he’s wonderful, we love him. We don’t do anything without Fauci.’ This went on for months.”

“But he didn’t listen to Fauci,” Kelly noted.

Trump responded by claiming that DeSantis “100%” did listen to Fauci and that “he shut down Florida.” When Kelly interjected that he did so only “for a month,” the former president responded, “Oh, he shut it down a lot longer. He shut down the beaches. He shut down the roads. He shut down a hospital. He also had long lines of people ‘getting the jab,’ as he called it. ‘Let’s all go get the jab.’ The guy tried to change history in Florida.” (exchange starts 2:25 mark)

DeSantis responded to Trump’s claims during an interview Thursday with Steve Deace when Deace brought up the former president’s remarks.

“I think it’s important to say that that is different from what Donald Trump used to say,” DeSantis noted. “I mean, he used to praise Florida for having been open. He used to say I was one of the country’s great governors. He said we handled COVID correctly and brilliantly. So he used to say that — he was on record, always saying that. Now, because I’m a threat to him, that’s why he’s now changing his tune.”

“But some of the things he’s saying are just bold faced lies,” he continued. “We never mandated mNRA COVID shots. In fact, I called a special session of the Florida legislature to prevent any mandates in the state. And not just by the state government or local government, we provided protections for employees at private businesses, which a lot of establishment Republicans basically were saying businesses should be able to do whatever they want.”

Deace noted that South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem was one of the “establishment Republicans” who DeSantis was talking about who sided with allowing businesses to mandate vaccines.

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“Kristi Noem told her own constituents, in July of 2021, that if you don’t want to work for a company with a vaccine mandate, just go get another job,” Deace said. “She said that publicly.”

Workers whose employers are mandating a vaccine for continued employment have the power to say no. Our robust economy and job market gives them the option to find a new employer that values personal choice and responsibility, and doesn’t force mandates on their employees.

— Kristi Noem (@KristiNoem) July 31, 2021

“And that’s, so you’re basically saying, your job or the jab, you have to make a choice on that,” DeSantis said. “So we fought against that. Clearly, Florida led the way in being open, much to the attacks that I used to suffer from — and a lot of the attacks that I suffered from through the balance of 2020 was the media in Florida leveraging the Trump White House against me and saying, ‘Oh, the governor isn’t following the Trump White House directives. He has restaurants open; he has schools open; he has all that stuff.’ So they really used that White House task force as a cudgel to try to beat me over the head to try to portray me as being reckless because we had opened the state, and we were doing all that. So that’s just the reality.”

DeSantis also addressed the claim that he “loved” Fauci, saying, contrary to Trump’s claims, his disdain for Fauci was so high that he actually sold campaign merchandise attacking Fauci that said, “Don’t Fauci My Florida.”

“I mean, this has been a rallying cry that we stood up to Fauci in Florida, the Free State of Florida would not have been what we are, were it not for standing up to Fauci,” he said, adding, “I fought against Fauci when he was popular. It’s easy for Republicans to ding him now because he’s unpopular with the broader electorate. Back then, Donald Trump used to cite Fauci’s poll numbers as a reason why Fauci was somebody that should be listened to. He said, ‘Fauci has got these great poll numbers, but we’re listening to Fauci, why don’t we have the same poll numbers?’ And his campaign for reelection, in October of 2020, they were running videos where Fauci is bragging that Donald Trump did everything I told him to do. They were putting that out as a positive message for their candidate. And then, of course, he did give Fauci a presidential commendation his last day in office.”

DeSantis went on to address a clip from Trump’s interview with Kelly in which he said he had no idea who gave Fauci the Presidential Commendation. “Was that the immaculate commendation that just happened to happen?” DeSantis joked. “It said, ‘Donald Trump awards Fauci this commendation.’ So I thought it was really pathetic to sit there and listen to that drivel. It is totally false. And you know what?”

DeSantis then called out people in conservative media who “know all that’s false,” but who might be afraid to call Trump out for a variety of reasons. “We’ll see how many of them are willing to step up to the plate and call a spade a spade,” DeSantis said.

Stop what you’re doing and watch this.

🔥 DESANTIS GOES OFF on Trump’s false attacks over COVID and his many excuses for not firing Anthony Fauci:

Trump “used to praise Florida for having been open. He used to say I was one of the country's great governors. He said we handled… pic.twitter.com/ydphVZmYTg

— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) September 14, 2023

DHS Announces Anti-Bias AI Policies, First Chief AI Officer

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced two new policies addressing artificial intelligence (AI) and its first chief AI officer on Thursday, with a special emphasis on preventing bias.

Eric Hysen, also DHS Chief Information Officer (CIO) and co-chair of the DHS Artificial Intelligence Task Force (AITF), will serve as the department’s first chief AI officer. In a press release, Hysen said that he would ensure the AI usage wouldn’t result in discrimination.

“The policies we are announcing today will ensure that the Department’s use of AI is free from discrimination and in full compliance with the law, ensuring that we retain the public’s trust,” said Hysen.

The two new policies, “Acquisition and Use of Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning by DHS Components” and “Use of Face Recognition and Face Capture Technologies” emphasized the need for AI usage to avoid “inappropriate consideration of race, ethnicity, gender, national origin, religion, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, age, nationality, medical condition, or disability,” as well as any “unintended bias or disparate impact.”

The first policy, issued last month, focused on AI use generally, as well as its counterpart, Machine Learning (ML). DHS declared it would “strive to minimize inappropriate bias” and discriminatory effects in AI use, relying on civil rights evaluation methods like disparate impact analysis. DHS also pledged to not use AI technology to enable “improper” systemic, indiscriminate, or large-scale monitoring, surveillance, or tracking systems.

Per the Department of Justice (DOJ), disparate impact avoids that which “perpetuates the repercussions of past discrimination.”

“In a disparate impact case, the investigation focuses on the consequences of the recipient’s practices, rather than the recipient’s intent,” stated the DOJ.

Under this policy, DHS announced the creation of an AI Policy Working Group (AIPWG) to work with the AITF in further development of AI policy and implementation.

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The second policy, issued on 9/11, focused more specifically on face recognition and face capture technologies. DHS declared that its data collection from the technologies wouldn’t be based on race, ethnicity, national origin, religion, gender, gender identity, age, sexual orientation, medical condition, or disability in order to “minimize bias and disparate impact.”

DHS further noted that face analysis technology, which relies on an algorithm to estimate an individual’s characteristics as captured on film, wouldn’t be used except when necessary to estimate age.

The policy designated authorities on the use of the two technologies, including the CIO; Under Secretary for Management; Under Secretary for Science and Technology; Under Secretary for Strategy, Policy, and Plans; Chief Privacy Officer; Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties; General Counsel; and the Chief Information Security Officer.

The AITF developed these policies.

DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas created the AITF in April for the purpose of developing departmental policy on using AI. The AITF’s express goals were to enhance the integrity of the supply chain and trade, counter the flow of fentanyl in the U.S. through improved criminal detection, apprehend perpetrators and rescue victims of online child sexual exploitation and abuse, and secure critical infrastructure generally.

Hysen’s counterpart as co-chair, Dimitri Kusnezov, is the DHS Under Secretary for Science and Technology. Kusnezov formerly served as the Department of Energy senior advisor and deputy under secretary for AI and technology. The remainder of the AITF consisted of the heads of all offices and agencies.

Prior to rejoining DHS and co-chairing the AITF, Hysen had a lengthy career under former President Barack Obama, as well as two major Big Tech giants.

Hysen served on the Biden-Harris Transition Team; led a joint project with the Penn-Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement while with the National Conference on Citizenship; led policy strategy for California Governor Gavin Newsom’s Government Operations Agency; directed the Justice & Opportunity Initiative under the Chan Zuckerberg Initiative; served as executive director of DHS Digital Service in the Obama administration; co-founded and managed the Obama White House Digital Service; and led Google’s Civic Engagement initiative to increase voter turnout.

In addition to the AITF and the AIPWG, the Homeland Security Advisory Council and two of its subcommittees are developing AI policy. The Office of Civil Rights and Civil Liberties (CRCL) has a group of internal stakeholders — dubbed the Responsible Use Group (RUG) — weighing in on AITF projects. Those stakeholders weren’t publicized.

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