Trump’s Attorney On Him Claiming He Was Going To Be Arrested Last Week: ‘He Didn’t Make It Up’

Joe Tacopina, former President Donald Trump’s attorney, said over the weekend that the president’s claims that he would be arrested Tuesday last week were based on leaks that NBC News had previously reported.

Tacopina made the remarks on NBC News’s “Meet The Press” when pressed by Chuck Todd on the matter.

“No, he didn’t make it up, he was reacting towards a lot of leaks coming out of the district attorney’s office,” Tacopina said. “There had been a leak, Chuck, that Monday, the day before that Tuesday, there was a law enforcement meeting, including Secret Service and NYPD, that was going to go through the logistics of the arraignment. And then there was, of course, a lot of rumors regarding the arraignment being the next day. So he just, I think he just assumed based on those leaks that that’s what was going to happen”

A spokesperson for Trump said several hours after Trump’s claim that they had received no notification that the president would be arrested.

“So it wasn’t about making it up, and certainly he doesn’t want to be arrested,” Tacopina added.

When asked if Trump’s team has been contacted about any “special arrangements” by the D.A.’s office, Tacopina said, “No, not through us.”

“I mean, we’ve been in touch with the district attorney’s office regarding potential logistics of an arraignment, if it gets to that point,” he said. “But certainly it didn’t come from us.”

TRANSCRIPT:

CHUCK TODD: Joining me now is Donald Trump’s attorney, Joe Tacopina, who represents him in the New York case. Mr. Tacopina, welcome to Meet the Press.

JOE TACOPINA: Thanks, Chuck. Good morning.

CHUCK TODD: Good morning. Let me start with a simple question. Why did your client, Mr. Trump, make that claim that turned out not to be true? Did he make it up?

JOE TACOPINA: No, he didn’t make it up, he was reacting towards a lot of leaks coming out of the district attorney’s office. There had been a leak, Chuck, that Monday, the day before that Tuesday, there was a law enforcement meeting, including Secret Service and NYPD, that was going to go through the logistics of the arraignment. And then there was, of course, a lot of rumors regarding the arraignment being the next day. So he just, I think he just assumed based on those leaks that that’s what was going to happen.

CHUCK TODD: Has anybody in the –

JOE TACOPINA: So it wasn’t about making it up, and certainly he doesn’t want to be arrested.

CHUCK TODD: Has anybody in the DA’s office contacted you, or told you about special arrangements? Did he have any of this knowledge through you?

JOE TACOPINA: No, not through us. I mean, we’ve been in touch with the district attorney’s office regarding potential logistics of an arraignment, if it gets to that point. But certainly it didn’t come from us.

‘Kids Are Really Smart’: Utah GOP Governor Says Age Restrictions On Social Media Use Aren’t Fool-Proof

Utah Republican Governor Spencer Cox said Sunday that placing age limit restrictions on social media use is not fool-proof.

In an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Cox admitted that enforcing a new state law requiring a parent’s permission for a child under 18 to use social media would be tough to enforce because kids can find ways around the rules.

“We understand that there are definitely going to be enforcement issues,” Cox told host Chuck Todd. “Any time you wade into this type of an industry, it’s going to be tough. And we don’t expect that we’re going to be able to prevent every young person from getting around this. Kids are really smart. That’s one of the problems.”

“I would prefer that Congress act,” Cox continued. “That’s where this should happen, and I think it will,” he said, pointing to a bill authored by Rep. Chris Stewart (R-UT) that would raise the minimum age to use social media to 16.

“[There is] broad bipartisan support,” he went on. “The president, in his State of the Union, said we need to do this. So I have President Biden, I have very conservative members of Congress working on this together. But the states have to lead out on this, and that’s what we’re doing … and then that helps Congress kind of coalesce and come to an agreement on how we prevent these terrible harms from happening.”

Cox argued that the new law is necessary to protect the health and safety of children.

“We know this is killing our kids,” he said. “We have to start there. The harm being done to our children far outweighs — and this started well before COVID, since 2012 — especially among young women, the rates of suicide, depression, anxiety, self-harm, have skyrocketed, and every research institution that has looked at this is pointing to social media as the cause.”

Cox signed two bills into law on Thursday that would regulate children’s use of social media as lawmakers in Congress questioned TikTok’s CEO over the platform’s effect on kids and national security. The legislation, which is the first of its kind in the nation, is expected to be challenged in court by social media companies. The laws, House Bill 311 and Senate Bill 152, were passed by the Republican-controlled Utah legislature earlier this year.

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Included in the new legislation, which goes into effect in 2024, is a ban on social media use by children from 10:30 p.m. to 6:30 a.m., which parents will have the liberty to adjust. Additionally, children will not show up in search results under the new law and will not be able to receive direct messages from those they are not friends with or following.

A provision in HB 311 allows children to sue for damages related to social media use. This takes aim at “addictive” features in social media, including “a $250,000 fine for social media companies which use addictive design features” and “a penalty of up to $2,500 per child exposed to an addictive feature.” For those under 16, there will be a presumption of harm unless proven otherwise, according to the Utah government.

Leif Le Mahieu contributed to this report.